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Patti LuPone<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Patti LuPone won the Olivier Award for her portrayal of Joanne in the revival of Stephen Sondheim\u2019s\u00a0Company<\/em>\u00a0at the Gielgud Theatre<\/a> in London\u2019s West End which closed in March of 2019. \u00a0This \u201cdistaff\u201d production – directed by Marianne Elliott and approved by Sondheim in which the gender of the lead characters was changed – had been scheduled to open in New York with a a wholly new cast except for the irreplaceable LuPone until the pandemic shut down Broadway.\u00a0 It was announced recently that Company<\/em>\u2019s highly anticipated Broadway relaunching, which had been scheduled\u00a0 for December, would now be moved up to November.\u00a0 The announcement was a reason to revisit a conversation I had with Patti LuPone in her dressing room at the Gielgud Theatre a couple of weeks before that earlier London production closed.<\/p>\n

I may have seen more performances by Patti LuPone than I have by any other actor.\u00a0 I discovered her during my first few months attending the Juilliard School\u2019s Drama Division in 1975 – her alma mater as well – when The Acting Company, which was an outgrowth of the first few acting groups that attended Juilliard, had a season of rep at New York\u2019s Harkness Theatre on Broadway and 62nd Street. The Harkness was demolished a couple of years later but nothing can demolish my memories of that Acting Company stand there. The season consisted of the musical The Robber Bridegroom<\/em>, based on the Eudora Welty novel, in which LuPone starred as Rosamund; Marlowe\u2019s\u00a0Edward II<\/em>\u00a0in which she played the title character\u2019s young son; Saroyan\u2019s\u00a0The Time of Your Life<\/em>\u00a0in which she portrayed the streetwalker Kitty Duval; and Chekhov\u2019s\u00a0Three Sisters<\/em>\u00a0in which she played Irina.\u00a0 I have been her fan ever since.<\/p>\n

I have seen her in\u00a0Evita<\/em>,\u00a0The Water Engine<\/em>,\u00a0The Woods<\/em>,\u00a0Edmund<\/em>,\u00a0Anything Goes<\/em>,\u00a0Sunset Boulevard<\/em>,\u00a0Master Class<\/em>,\u00a0Sweeney Todd<\/em>,\u00a0Noises Off<\/em>,\u00a0Gypsy<\/em>,\u00a0The Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny<\/em>,\u00a0Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown<\/em>, her one-woman show Patti LuPone on Broadway<\/em>, An Evening with Patti LuPone and Mandy Patinkin<\/em>,\u00a0Shows for Days<\/em>,\u00a0War Paint<\/em>, and the\u00a0staged concert version of Company <\/em>for New York Philharmonic as well as that production on the West End.\u00a0I look forward to seeing her in the Broadway production later this year in which the lead role of Bobbie will be played by Katrina Link.<\/p>\n

When I arrived at LuPone\u2019s Gielgud Theatre dressing room back in March 2019 a couple of weeks before the show\u2019s closing, she was wearing her \u201cdressing room\u201d shirt, a blue one with two patches on it.\u00a0 One patch had Twelfth Nigh<\/em>t stitched on it.\u00a0 The other was stitched with the name of David, which is a tribute to her close friend, playwright David Mamet.\u00a0 She has appeared in more Mamet plays than in work by any other writer, which led to the beginning of our conversation.<\/p>\n

I am curious about the political dynamic of your friendship with David Mamet.\u00a0 He<\/em>\u2019<\/em>s so right-wing now.\u00a0 And you certainly are not.\u00a0 You<\/em>\u2019<\/em>re both very political.\u00a0 How does that work?<\/em><\/p>\n

David and I don\u2019t talk politics.\u00a0 I\u2019m too possessive of our friendship.\u00a0 I mean, I\u2019ve got other friends who voted for Trump and I\u2019m still friends with them even though I don\u2019t understand them.\u00a0 One set of friends, I don\u2019t even dare ask what they think now.\u00a0 They are lifelong Republicans, but they are also extremely intelligent and sensitive people so obviously I can\u2019t think that they see what is going on and still support this man \u2026 \u00a0But I don\u2019t think they want to be made to feel like fools or losers because they voted for him.\u00a0 I came of age in New York in the 1980s when this idiot Trump came of age.\u00a0 I know who this motherf*cker is.\u00a0 It shocks me that people voted for him and that they were conned by him.\u00a0 That\u2019s his modus operandi.<\/p>\n

We had a home for a time down in Edisto, South Carolina.\u00a0 I said to my husband after we bought the property in Edisto, \u201cWhy didn\u2019t we ask them about religion, taxes, and politics?\u201d\u00a0 Because we were in a\u00a0blood red<\/em>\u00a0state. Oh, dig this!\u00a0 The Chief of Police before he was the Chief of Police was a deputy whatever.\u00a0 They know who I am down there and they watched the house when we were not down there because we weren\u2019t down there that much.\u00a0 He told me he\u2019d come by and make sure the house was safe and he\u2019d sit on my porch and have lunch.\u00a0 I told him he was more than welcome to do that.\u00a0 And in an emergency they wanted to use our roof for radio control because it was\u00a0 flat or whatever.\u00a0 He became the Chief of Police and I wanted to pay him back and I said, \u201cWhy don\u2019t you come over for dinner.\u201d\u00a0 But I was terrified that I was going to meet his wife.\u00a0 Well, I wasn\u2019t\u00a0 terrified I was going to meet his wife.\u00a0 I was\u00a0 terrified because I didn\u2019t know what I was going to get from him and her.\u00a0 He is a lovely guy, but I was sure they were Trump voters.\u00a0 So she walked\u00a0 in the door \u2013 a lovely lady \u2013 and not a minute into being in my house she goes, \u201cI\u00a0hate<\/em>\u00a0Trump.\u201d\u00a0 And I was,\u00a0ohmygod<\/em>, there are likeminded people down here!<\/p>\n

Speaking of likeminded southerners, <\/em>Eudora Welty <\/em>came to see you in\u00a0<\/em>The Robber Bridegroom\u00a0during that stand at the Harkness. \u00a0I have a memory of walking Miss Welty back to the Algonquin after a performance. She was part of coterie of people in Jackson, Mississippi, around a theatre troupe there called New Stage Theatre. They welcomed me into their fold and mentored me as a teenager. Am I right in remembering her coming to see you as Rosamund in\u00a0<\/em>The Robber Bridegroom?<\/em><\/p>\n

Yep.\u00a0 Yep.\u00a0 We met her.\u00a0 Of course, she would have stayed at the Algonquin.\u00a0 Of course, she did.\u00a0 Her face was so bright. She had those big teeth.\u00a0 And when she smiled, it was:\u00a0OhmyGod<\/em>!\u00a0 She was incredible.\u00a0 And that was such a great production.\u00a0 Those were some of the sweetest moments I\u2019ve ever spent on a stage in\u00a0The Robber Bridegroom<\/em>.<\/p>\n

You looked so happy at the curtain call for <\/em>Company at the performance I saw. You must be making some lovely, lasting memories of the sweet moments in this production. \u00a0\u00a0I<\/em>\u2019<\/em>ve seen you in some productions when I<\/em>\u2019<\/em>ve wondered if you were happy in them.\u00a0\u00a0 Bad memories and magnificent performances could be a subtext of some your work. <\/em>Evita might fall into that category based on your memoir.\u00a0 <\/em>Sunset Boulevard certainly.<\/em>\u00a0 But are you as happy as you seem being in this production<\/em>?<\/p>\n

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Patti LuPone<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

I think there are very few times I\u2019ve been unhappy\u00a0at a curtain call<\/em>. \u00a0But this company is extraordinary.\u00a0 We are all sensing a loss about our closing.\u00a0\u00a0 We haven\u2019t even been together long enough to get sick of each other.\u00a0 It has been the most copacetic company.\u00a0 I have been lucky for the last three or four musicals.\u00a0 Gypsy<\/em>\u00a0was that way.\u00a0War Paint<\/em>\u00a0was that way.\u00a0 This is that way.\u00a0 Marianne [Elliott, Company<\/em>\u2019s director] is this \u2026 ah \u2026\u00a0thing<\/em>.\u00a0 I don\u2019t even know how to describe her because I\u2019ve used every adjective in the world.\u00a0 But she is incredibly special in how she can put together a company.\u00a0 It is interesting to me how this particular company came together and the responsibility that each of us feels because everyone is a principal, pretty much, while at the same time everybody is playing a featured part.\u00a0\u00a0 The combination of personalities is extraordinary.\u00a0 Everybody cares, supports, and loves each other.\u00a0 If there\u2019s a problem, everybody comes around that person to protect them.\u00a0 And Rosie [Rosalie Craig who played Bobbie in the London production] and I look at each other at the curtain call and we just want to burst into tears because it\u2019s been an extraordinary experience.<\/p>\n

When it goes to New York – and I can\u2019t imagine its not going and your not doing Joanne there – and if it is recast around you, I hope that you have the same happy experience.\u00a0 I trust you will because of what you have said about Marianne and her shaping of a company.\u00a0 One of the things that Marianne has \u201cshaped\u201d in the narrative of the show is making it to me about alcoholism in some deep-seated way.\u00a0 I don<\/em>\u2019<\/em>t remember the male Bobbys in the earlier productions I<\/em>\u2019<\/em>ve seen drinking as much as the female Bobbie in this production does.\u00a0 It\u2019s as if your character of Joanne were grooming her to be an alcoholic since I think Joanne is certainly one.\u00a0 Has it become a show about alcoholism in some way? <\/em><\/p>\n

That is one of the things different about this production, yes: Bobbie\u2019s drinking. I don\u2019t know about the alcoholism.\u00a0 I am definitely a professional drinker in it and Marianne has laced in all that alcohol for Bobbie.\u00a0 And we do get together on that drinking element.\u00a0 And Joanne is mentoring her.\u00a0 Everything you just said.\u00a0 But the alcoholism, I don\u2019t think it\u2019s about that.\u00a0 She does however give her husband to her in that \u201cLadies Who Lunch\u201d bar scene because of her insecurity and so she will still be in control of the situation. And he won\u2019t leave her. She will leave him. But all that other stuff, well, the fact that you got all that out of it, Kevin, is fantastic for what is theatre except the interpretation that the audience brings to it.<\/p>\n

Marianne mined the scenes.\u00a0 This was the first musical I ever worked on where the priorities were the scene work.\u00a0 No music.\u00a0 That was the least important thing \u2026 It is a fantastic book by George Furth and that is what Marianne did: she mined those scenes in the book.\u00a0 Those were what our rehearsals were about.\u00a0 You know when you usually do a musical, it\u2019s a meet-and-greet, then: music.\u00a0 Or meet-and-greet, then: choreography.\u00a0 But you very rarely work on the book.\u00a0 And Marianne works on the book.\u00a0 And then the assistant director would have meetings with us and we\u2019d have to come up with backstories for our characters and our relationships.\u00a0 How did we meet, blah-blah-blah, which is what we don\u2019t do in the states.\u00a0 Even when you\u2019re doing a play, you don\u2019t have those individual meetings with your partner with another director.<\/p>\n

When we got to that \u201cLadies Who Lunch\u201d scene with Joanne and Bobbie, Rosie and I both looked at the bar stools and the table and my first thought was, \u201cI\u2019m not gonna get back up on it if I get off it.\u201d\u00a0 Marianne said, \u201cWhat do you want to do, Patti?\u201d\u00a0 And I said, \u201cLet\u2019s just sit here and see what happens.\u201d\u00a0 And that\u2019s what she wanted.\u00a0 The thing that was so brilliant is that she kept it all\u00a0inside the scene.\u00a0\u00a0<\/em>She kept the song inside the scene.\u00a0 And then some place within the rehearsal hall I found it \u2013 not sure when, I have to talk to her about this \u2013 I turned it all to Bobbie and sang \u201cand here\u2019s to the girls who just watch \u2026\u201d<\/p>\n

And then two seconds later when the song is over, I say to her \u201cWatch: did you hear what you just said?\u00a0Watch<\/em>.\u201d\u00a0 And I\u2019ve played this part and I never made that connection.\u00a0\u00a0 I\u2019m assuming it\u2019s written about Joanne who is the one that\u2019s just watching commenting on her society,\u00a0 her class.\u00a0 But when we turned it\u00a0in<\/em>, it was such a revelation.\u00a0 And to keep the whole thing\u00a0within the scene<\/em>\u00a0was so important.<\/p>\n

Because you are who you are, Patti, and you can do that eleven-o<\/em>\u2019<\/em>clock number thing and just blow the f*cking roof off the theatre and people adore you for it and we want to scream for you, we forget about the quiet skill you<\/em>\u2019<\/em>ve got and how well-honed your art is.\u00a0 That other stuff is\u00a0part of the service aspect of your being an artist: you give people that kind of moment we long for from you.\u00a0 We long to love you.\u00a0 You<\/em>\u2019<\/em>re okay with our<\/em> longing for that.\u00a0 Okay, you seem to be saying, you want that from me then here it is, I will give it to you, here<\/em>\u2019<\/em>s the big moment.\u00a0 But because of that, sometimes one forgets what a great actress you are and how subtle you can be. \u00a0Subtlety and Patti LuPone don\u2019t go together usually.\u00a0 It is not part of your legend.\u00a0 But it is what I have long loved about you – the incongruity of the big belter who has these subtle notes as a serious actress. What role does stillness play in acting?<\/em><\/p>\n

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Patti Lupone<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

I was just telling someone today that it used to be when we were kids that rehearsal led to performance.\u00a0 We\u2019re finally on the stage and we\u2019re out of rehearsal!\u00a0\u00a0 Now, to me, it\u2019s all about the rehearsal.\u00a0 It<\/em>\u2019<\/em>s all about the rehearsal<\/em>.\u00a0 Maybe it\u2019s age.\u00a0 Maybe it\u2019s a settling or something where for me the rehearsal is more important than the performance.<\/p>\n

And yet, that\u2019s what I love about a long run.\u00a0 I\u2019m not the brightest bulb in the bulb box.\u00a0 I never was.\u00a0 But the\u00a0 long runs have taught me how to edit.\u00a0 I have come to see my pattern.\u00a0 I\u2019m working off adrenalin for the first three months.\u00a0 And then I get bored.\u00a0 I go,\u00a0ohmyGod<\/em>, I\u2019ve got nine more months to go.<\/p>\n

But that\u2019s when I stop acting and then all of a sudden these bubbles are bursting and the work begins.\u00a0 And I always think that the thing to do is to get down to that moment when you\u2019re not doing anything.\u00a0You<\/em>\u2019<\/em>re not doing anything<\/em>.<\/p>\n

And where do we look when we\u2019re watching a performance or watching a play?\u00a0 Don\u2019t we always gravitate to the guy or the woman who is just standing there?\u00a0 What are they doing?\u00a0 What are they thinking?\u00a0 What\u2019s going on?\u00a0 The one who\u2019s perfectly still.\u00a0 It is the hardest thing to achieve. \u00a0I\u2019ve learned \u2026 oh, it takes forever \u2026 it\u2019s all that clich\u00e9 talk too:\u00a0in the moment<\/em>\u00a0\u2026 do you know what I mean? \u2026\u00a0listen<\/em>\u00a0\u2026 it\u2019s all that clich\u00e9 talk .. but it\u2019s so true.\u00a0 It<\/em>\u2019<\/em>s so true<\/em>. To bring this full circle back to David Mamet.\u00a0 David always says to give each word its proper weight.\u00a0 That\u2019s true.\u00a0 It\u2019s hard to understand what that means,\u00a0 but if you don\u2019t think you need to do more, then that opens it up.\u00a0 That takes confidence on the actor\u2019s part because most of us are deeply insecure and think we have to do more when we really don\u2019t.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":29575,"featured_media":31278,"template":"","format":"standard","categories":[38],"yoast_head":"\nFive Questions For Patti LuPone - Grazia USA<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/graziamagazine.com\/us\/articles\/five-questions-for-patti-lupone\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Five Questions For Patti LuPone\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Patti LuPone won the Olivier Award for her portrayal of Joanne in the revival of Stephen Sondheim\u2019s\u00a0Company\u00a0at the Gielgud Theatre in London\u2019s West End which closed in March of 2019. \u00a0This \u201cdistaff\u201d production – directed by Marianne Elliott and approved by Sondheim in which the gender of the lead characters was changed – had been...\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/graziamagazine.com\/us\/articles\/five-questions-for-patti-lupone\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Grazia USA\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2021-08-05T19:30:37+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/graziamagazine.com\/us\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/15\/2021\/08\/Patti-LuPone_Feat.jpg?fit=1280%2C720\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"1280\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"720\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"13 minutes\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/graziamagazine.com\/us\/articles\/five-questions-for-patti-lupone\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/graziamagazine.com\/us\/articles\/five-questions-for-patti-lupone\/\",\"name\":\"Five Questions For Patti LuPone - 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